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Ace

I am new to all forms of poker but I just started playing this (practicing online first).
The strategy proposed by the Wizard is very easy to master, expect for the 'less than 21 outs' rule. See the game and rules here: https://wizardofodds.com/games/ultimate-texas-hold-em/
Here is an example. I have pocket 3s4d and the board is 10s, 10h, Qd, Jd, 9d.
I counted 19 outs: (Q+J + Nine) *3 + Tens * 2 + (A + K) * 4.
So I chose to call, but the game tells me the that's wrong play and I should fold.
What am I counting wrong? Sorry if my lingo is incorrect.

rdw4potus

You're missing the 8 for the straight. Also pocket pairs and suited diamonds.

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Ace

Thanks, four eights bring the total to 23 and into fold territory. My rookie mistake.
However my understanding is the outs rule only counts the effect of single cards being dealt, not combinations, so the potential pocket pair or 2 to a flush would not factor in. I may be wrong.

Ibeatyouraces

Thanks, four eights bring the total to 23 and into fold territory. My rookie mistake.
However my understanding is the outs rule only counts the effect of single cards being dealt, not combinations, so the potential pocket pair or 2 to a flush would not factor in. I may be wrong.

Actually it does. When counting single, as in a hole card games, you call with 10 (edit: or 11. Been so long I've forgotten) bad outs or less that either give you a win or push.

Last edited by: Ibeatyouraces on May 2, 2018

odiousgambit

If you had a pocket pair [other than a pair of two's], you should have raised 4x in the beginning. The 21 outs, which is simple and imperfect strategy anyway, is used when it is the last decision.
For the 21 outs, you count potential pairs, and not straights and flush possibilities, which is not to say they don't matter. To avoid the wrong play, you need to use a better strategy than the Wizard's ... he would agree with that I think.
Usually counting the outs, it is an end decision about whether your kicker is good enough. Using the Wizard strategy, you have to get a gut feeling about potential dealer straights and flushes and modify your decisions.

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CharmedQuark

I think with this example, you play for the push. You are dead with your hole cards, so the board is all you got. Yes, your have 23 outs, but this is a paired board where the cutoff is 22 (actually 22.44) outs or less according to teliot. So you are sitting there with two bets (ante-blind) to protect. At 23 outs, to me it's almost a 50-50 shot - you get lucky or not. I always play for the push on these 'edgy' situations.

98Clubs

Holding 3-4 off-suit?
Fold
You can be beaten by Ace, King, Queen, Jack, Ten, 9, 8
If Dealer is 7-high or less (no two diamonds) PUSH
Chances (23/45 + 22/44) Dealer wins, (22/45 + 16/44) Push
Looks like a negative EV
98

Ace

Holding 3-4 off-suit?
Fold
You can be beaten by Ace, King, Queen, Jack, Ten, 9, 8
If Dealer is 7-high or less (no two diamonds) PUSH
Chances (23/45 + 22/44) Dealer wins, (22/45 + 16/44) Push
Looks like a negative EV
98

How can you get beaten by 8?

odiousgambit

i thought you meant you had pocket 3s, i.e. a pair of 3s ... and kind of ignored the rest that didnt make sense
if you mean 3 of spades and 4 of diamonds is what you held, I have no idea why you would think there was some prayer counting outs. There must be something I am not getting.

the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder

Ace2

i thought you meant you had pocket 3s, i.e. a pair of 3s ... and kind of ignored the rest that didnt make sense
if you mean 3 of spades and 4 of diamonds is what you held, I have no idea why you would think there was some prayer counting outs. There must be something I am not getting.

Maybe I’m not getting it. I’m new to this.

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My understanding is that I’m playing the board and my pocket 3-4 is inconsequential. Lowest card on the board is 9 so excluding the potential straight there are 19 outs.

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It’s all about making that GTA